gc28262
07-20 11:35 AM
It's more of a motivation to get up and do something. How much was collected? I know many ppl contributed but the contribution was very less...so u shut up ur hole or whatever language u prefer to use at ur home. My point was to do rather than posting. If u didn't get that, sorry.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
smuggymba,
Do you have any numbers for advocacy effort participation in terms of EB2 vs EB3 ? You and some EB2 members on this forum seems to be suggesting that they are getting GCs faster because they did some outstanding effort in terms of IV advocacy effort. Would you mind sharing some evidence in case you have some ?
I didn't see EB2 guys overcrowding that event. There were well meaning, sincere members from both EB2 as well EB3.
Please stop lecturing EB3 guys. If pappu or someone from leadership want to lecture us, it is fine. Not every jack and jill on this forum should lecture us.
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vikasgarg24
07-20 02:33 PM
Freinds
Do not fight we are EB2/EB3/EB1. This is law and instructed by politicians. Divide and rule.
Same thing they did and now and you see the result in IV forum where people fight that create below category
1.Based on educations (US masters/US bachlors/Non US masters/Non US bachleors etc etc)
2. Based on experience - US experioence non us experience
3. EB1/EB/2 EB3
4. L1/H1/b1/b2
5. Family based
6 etc etc
If you count the division you can say based on heights, color, marries and non marries status etc.
So stop fighting based on politicians category and help IV to goahead and fight for all.
I personally feel when you fight you have success for one group and no success for other group. So do not feel that EB2 are getting beenfits. I myself is EB3 and expecting GC by 2026
Do not fight we are EB2/EB3/EB1. This is law and instructed by politicians. Divide and rule.
Same thing they did and now and you see the result in IV forum where people fight that create below category
1.Based on educations (US masters/US bachlors/Non US masters/Non US bachleors etc etc)
2. Based on experience - US experioence non us experience
3. EB1/EB/2 EB3
4. L1/H1/b1/b2
5. Family based
6 etc etc
If you count the division you can say based on heights, color, marries and non marries status etc.
So stop fighting based on politicians category and help IV to goahead and fight for all.
I personally feel when you fight you have success for one group and no success for other group. So do not feel that EB2 are getting beenfits. I myself is EB3 and expecting GC by 2026
gjoe
10-08 04:24 PM
If you want to play chess you got to play it by the rules. If you think you can win the game if we can change the rules, I would say it is not impossible but a long shot.
In USA every citizen is supposed to follow the law that is the fundamental reason why this place has been attracting so many immigrants ( anybody can pursue their dreams if they follow the law). If you think govt officials are above that you are wrong, if you encourage that by accepting it, that will not make this place any better than other third world democracies. All govt officials in the USA are accountable for what they are entrusted with, if you didn't know about it until now there is something wrong with the system we are working with. I can say this with full authority on this matter because I work for the goverment.
Let us give it a little though and see if fighting to make the dept follow the law is worth while. If we think it is not, getting a GC and living here is not any better than living back home.
In USA every citizen is supposed to follow the law that is the fundamental reason why this place has been attracting so many immigrants ( anybody can pursue their dreams if they follow the law). If you think govt officials are above that you are wrong, if you encourage that by accepting it, that will not make this place any better than other third world democracies. All govt officials in the USA are accountable for what they are entrusted with, if you didn't know about it until now there is something wrong with the system we are working with. I can say this with full authority on this matter because I work for the goverment.
Let us give it a little though and see if fighting to make the dept follow the law is worth while. If we think it is not, getting a GC and living here is not any better than living back home.
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anzerraja
07-19 08:27 PM
Could you please help us doing that ? I asked GSC999 for the same thing. There is no reply yet.
can you create an excel sheet in google and share it so that it is easy to track the contribution
can you create an excel sheet in google and share it so that it is easy to track the contribution
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leoindiano
12-16 08:06 PM
I am from North Carolina as well. No FP yet...It could be something to do with NC local office.....
texas-vermont-texas cycle...application date August 3rd.
texas-vermont-texas cycle...application date August 3rd.
jchan
05-01 10:30 AM
Be careful what you ask for. If one day, the spouse is classified in family quota and has to wait 4 more years than you do. Is this something you really want?
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gk_2000
02-17 11:16 AM
thanks ub27, gc_on_demand
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
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What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
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What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
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ghost
06-21 10:03 PM
GCBy3000,
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
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stucklabor
06-26 10:25 AM
All,
Let us focus on CIR and its aftermath. I understand everyone is frustrated because of the standstill on legal high skilled immigration reform. However, that does not excuse speculation on America's demographics 10 years from now, and gross pejorative generalizations about ethnic groups and nationalities. As Mpkmaster pointed out, no culture is free from deficiencies. I have never been to Mexico but I am sure corruption there can't be worse than corruption in India.
Mpkmaster, there is a specific method to report offensive posts. Please follow it the next time round, as there is no guarantee that grossly offensive posts will be read by the moderators. Thanks for speaking up.
And in response to Jaime, please do not let a few bad posts detract from the rest of the forums. There is a reason that people are frustrated. There is no progress on CIR and our cause is really a political football. We are not powerful enough or large enough in numbers yet for politicians to sit up and take notice of us.
Let us focus on CIR and its aftermath. I understand everyone is frustrated because of the standstill on legal high skilled immigration reform. However, that does not excuse speculation on America's demographics 10 years from now, and gross pejorative generalizations about ethnic groups and nationalities. As Mpkmaster pointed out, no culture is free from deficiencies. I have never been to Mexico but I am sure corruption there can't be worse than corruption in India.
Mpkmaster, there is a specific method to report offensive posts. Please follow it the next time round, as there is no guarantee that grossly offensive posts will be read by the moderators. Thanks for speaking up.
And in response to Jaime, please do not let a few bad posts detract from the rest of the forums. There is a reason that people are frustrated. There is no progress on CIR and our cause is really a political football. We are not powerful enough or large enough in numbers yet for politicians to sit up and take notice of us.
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ss_79
05-10 04:19 PM
Below is my post from one of the other threads and think might help the discussion here...
I sincerely think that the reason why various immigration agencies are getting away with 'doing nothing' for Legal immigrants is because media does not discuss the backlogs in the immigration system. If we can focus on some really shocking statistics....data...and request some reasonable media personnel to discuss and take up as a story...it would be more helpful than all flower campaigns...and other forms of protests. I wrote to Fareed Zakaria today and you can do so as well. We can try other famous personalities on CNN such as Soledad O�Brien. If you know anybody on the Fox News side who might sympathize and investigate the issue, try them as well. Every media and politicians bracket us in the same group as illegals or fraud H1Bs...that image needs to change before something can happen...its absolutely bizarre and immoral in my opinion when the head of DHS cannot go to congress and say that there is an unfair situation for Legal Immigrants from India/China in the immigration system and she needs temporary assistance in fixing the system. Sec of State and Head of DHS surely have the authority to refer an unfair situation in the congress for a temporary legislative solution until the CIR is addressed.
I sincerely think that the reason why various immigration agencies are getting away with 'doing nothing' for Legal immigrants is because media does not discuss the backlogs in the immigration system. If we can focus on some really shocking statistics....data...and request some reasonable media personnel to discuss and take up as a story...it would be more helpful than all flower campaigns...and other forms of protests. I wrote to Fareed Zakaria today and you can do so as well. We can try other famous personalities on CNN such as Soledad O�Brien. If you know anybody on the Fox News side who might sympathize and investigate the issue, try them as well. Every media and politicians bracket us in the same group as illegals or fraud H1Bs...that image needs to change before something can happen...its absolutely bizarre and immoral in my opinion when the head of DHS cannot go to congress and say that there is an unfair situation for Legal Immigrants from India/China in the immigration system and she needs temporary assistance in fixing the system. Sec of State and Head of DHS surely have the authority to refer an unfair situation in the congress for a temporary legislative solution until the CIR is addressed.
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mchundi
05-03 04:02 PM
:) sure you are otherwise you wouldn't be living here.
I am not againist H4 guys but i can't help but laugh when H4 guys complain that they were being treated bad by not allowing them to work.
One has to understand that US allows ppl on a certain basis and H4 is nothing but to join your spouse (or something like that for kids).
One can request them to make a provision for H4 ppl to work but blaming that they haven't done that simply by fogetting on what basis they entered US.... hmmm i don't know.
Questioning their speed of process and other irregular rules... yes i am with you but blaming them for above ... i don't think that is fair.
I wonder how many who come here on H4 know what complexities lay ahead in the G.C processing. unfortunately it is not easy to undo their marriage and go back.
They need a fair deal too just like the way those in EB-3 are waiting for a proposal that addresses their issues more directly rather than trickle down. I guess u r one of them.
I dont know how much u know about G.C before u came here. I am yet to understand it clearly.
--MC
I am not againist H4 guys but i can't help but laugh when H4 guys complain that they were being treated bad by not allowing them to work.
One has to understand that US allows ppl on a certain basis and H4 is nothing but to join your spouse (or something like that for kids).
One can request them to make a provision for H4 ppl to work but blaming that they haven't done that simply by fogetting on what basis they entered US.... hmmm i don't know.
Questioning their speed of process and other irregular rules... yes i am with you but blaming them for above ... i don't think that is fair.
I wonder how many who come here on H4 know what complexities lay ahead in the G.C processing. unfortunately it is not easy to undo their marriage and go back.
They need a fair deal too just like the way those in EB-3 are waiting for a proposal that addresses their issues more directly rather than trickle down. I guess u r one of them.
I dont know how much u know about G.C before u came here. I am yet to understand it clearly.
--MC
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buddyinsd
08-31 04:21 PM
note to admins: Please track down the ip address of this person. I'm gonna sue this person and i am dead serious. Please pm me with this person's ip address and i'll make sure i'll take action against him/her.
all you freaking south indians can do is sit on your ass and code all day long .... As soon as you fellows open your mouth we all get how intelligent you guys are .... As for drawing the line between north and south - can we just seperate the telugu, kanada, tamil and malayalam people from the north and the rest of us northeners will be just fine :)
all you freaking south indians can do is sit on your ass and code all day long .... As soon as you fellows open your mouth we all get how intelligent you guys are .... As for drawing the line between north and south - can we just seperate the telugu, kanada, tamil and malayalam people from the north and the rest of us northeners will be just fine :)
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reddymjm
06-12 06:00 AM
All checks cashed June 8th. It was sent to Nebrasks. I hardy just could read the SRC letters in back of my check. Online image in not good. I guess it has gone to Texas sercice center.
Do you know how long for receipt letter?
Thanks.
TIP: Print them you should be able to read.:) My checks cleared on the same day got the receipts yesterday. So you should be getting them today or tomorrow. I am not sure if attorney can chose whether to send it to you or not.
Do you know how long for receipt letter?
Thanks.
TIP: Print them you should be able to read.:) My checks cleared on the same day got the receipts yesterday. So you should be getting them today or tomorrow. I am not sure if attorney can chose whether to send it to you or not.
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oguinan
07-09 01:04 AM
For some postal destinations the USPS offers guaranteed 2 day service. I recently mailed a package where this service was offered. The postal worker explained that if the package was mailed on a Friday, it would be delivered on Sunday. San Francisco, CA is one of the destinations where this service is offered and the package in question was, indeed, delivered on a Sunday.
You should check whether the postal service offers the 2-day service to the USCIS office.
United states postal service. My lawyer sent it on june 29 and to this day it's a mestry to me how it was delivered at 10:10 pm at night. I did not think anybody would accept it. BUt if they were working on 25000 in 48 hours. The only reason i think they took it is to finish the number of visa available.
still It does not mean anything ... they can reject it.
You should check whether the postal service offers the 2-day service to the USCIS office.
United states postal service. My lawyer sent it on june 29 and to this day it's a mestry to me how it was delivered at 10:10 pm at night. I did not think anybody would accept it. BUt if they were working on 25000 in 48 hours. The only reason i think they took it is to finish the number of visa available.
still It does not mean anything ... they can reject it.
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Macaca
03-09 08:05 PM
Go Outback tonight.
Don't forget Cheese Fries and a drink that rocks your boat!:cool:
Don't forget Cheese Fries and a drink that rocks your boat!:cool:
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nozerd
03-08 07:44 AM
Just forget about GC and save as much as you can to take back home. Treat US the same way Indians treat ME.
Just take your fortune with you. If the GC comes then great, if not thats fine too. You are going back home with something - hard cash.
Remember US $ 210 K is nearly 1 crore rupees.
Just take your fortune with you. If the GC comes then great, if not thats fine too. You are going back home with something - hard cash.
Remember US $ 210 K is nearly 1 crore rupees.
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spicy_guy
08-09 10:25 AM
I agree with you 100%.
If you or any one else is planning to move forward with some plans for helping EB3 folks, expect some serious opposition to your efforts. Many EB3 folks themselves do not see any need for EB3 only actions.
A bunch of us talked to a lawyer regarding the INA and the initial reaction was not very encouraging. The lawyer was suggesting us to convert to EB2.
Lawyers would always suggest you to port to EB2, even in case EB3 I is going to be current tomorrow. Simple truth, they need money! So don't listen to lawyers on THIS!
If you or any one else is planning to move forward with some plans for helping EB3 folks, expect some serious opposition to your efforts. Many EB3 folks themselves do not see any need for EB3 only actions.
A bunch of us talked to a lawyer regarding the INA and the initial reaction was not very encouraging. The lawyer was suggesting us to convert to EB2.
Lawyers would always suggest you to port to EB2, even in case EB3 I is going to be current tomorrow. Simple truth, they need money! So don't listen to lawyers on THIS!
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beautifulMind
10-08 04:33 PM
It already does, if you have an approved I-140 based on your LC.
Not really..before PERM LC tooks 4-5 years and a lot of people got laid off at the end of 4th 5th year and lost everything...Years of exp is best. based on Intial LC is good too....Ultimately anyone with a masters + 2-3 yrs exp or bachelors with 4-5 yrs exp should not have to wait in queue. Their priority dates should be current...I still support the whole Company GC and not just a points based system
Not really..before PERM LC tooks 4-5 years and a lot of people got laid off at the end of 4th 5th year and lost everything...Years of exp is best. based on Intial LC is good too....Ultimately anyone with a masters + 2-3 yrs exp or bachelors with 4-5 yrs exp should not have to wait in queue. Their priority dates should be current...I still support the whole Company GC and not just a points based system
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ikass
02-23 06:48 PM
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 8D378253JD920781B. Just donated $200 for the event. I `ll be participating in advocacy effort along with 2 or 3 more friends. Will try to help as much as possible. Thanks for your efforts!
GumI485
07-03 08:37 AM
I m game for it!!IV CORE plz advice us which method wud be apt to send the flowers...I think,we need to start on this asap,without any delay.:)
gcForV
07-09 04:18 PM
This website has links of most of the talk show hosts. Right click on the individual email links to get address.
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
E-Mail or Fax YOUR Message to Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and State Legislatures!
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
E-Mail or Fax YOUR Message to Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and State Legislatures!
http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
Subject: Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
Dear ****,
I would like to get to your attention the peaceful campaign of Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez
Please find below/attached the article related to this.
Thanks,
******
--copy of the article and attachment--
modified some base content.How does this look?
If we individually send to all the talk show hosts we are bound to get some attention.Core group what do U think:Should this mails be sent individually by each of us or are the administrator's going to mail the talkshow hosts?
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